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	<title>Comments on: The West Hospital: Should it stay or should it go?</title>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://richmondva.wordpress.com/2008/02/22/the-west-hospital-should-it-stay-or-should-it-go/#comment-1723</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Mar 2008 17:30:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Also, it is called VCU Health Systems now. the story about that is Trani saw the school listed in USA Today as "MCV, part of the University of Virginia Health Systems" had a fit and renamed everything  to carry the VCU moniker.  There are still those over there who don't wear the VCU flag proudly and would rather remain MCV.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Also, it is called VCU Health Systems now. the story about that is Trani saw the school listed in USA Today as &#8220;MCV, part of the University of Virginia Health Systems&#8221; had a fit and renamed everything  to carry the VCU moniker.  There are still those over there who don&#8217;t wear the VCU flag proudly and would rather remain MCV.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Mar 2008 17:27:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Listen genious, Trani did not plan the School of Engineering/School of Business building.  The building was paid for by private funds and all of the planning and stuff was undertaken by the School itself, all Trani did was smile and take pictures.  The site was chosen because Engineering students needed to be able to get between both Schools easily, would you have rather them build it across Cary?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Listen genious, Trani did not plan the School of Engineering/School of Business building.  The building was paid for by private funds and all of the planning and stuff was undertaken by the School itself, all Trani did was smile and take pictures.  The site was chosen because Engineering students needed to be able to get between both Schools easily, would you have rather them build it across Cary?</p>
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		<title>By: Potus No.4</title>
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		<dc:creator>Potus No.4</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Mar 2008 22:17:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Steve asked what developer would spend millions renovating a building in the middle of MCV's campus (BTW, are we still allowed to call it MCV?). Are you kidding me? To have a building in the middle of a mass of people like that? Imagine converting it into apartments for faculty, staff and students. Office space for medical types and medical vendors. Some commercial space and/or another dining option for the crunch of people who are down there. The options are limitless. If I ran a development company, I'd sure as hell make an offer on it. How many beautiful, historic, landmark buildings in the middle of a critical mass of people living and working in a ready-made market are there? You have people who must be down there all the time -- it would almost be like having a monopoly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Steve asked what developer would spend millions renovating a building in the middle of MCV&#8217;s campus (BTW, are we still allowed to call it MCV?). Are you kidding me? To have a building in the middle of a mass of people like that? Imagine converting it into apartments for faculty, staff and students. Office space for medical types and medical vendors. Some commercial space and/or another dining option for the crunch of people who are down there. The options are limitless. If I ran a development company, I&#8217;d sure as hell make an offer on it. How many beautiful, historic, landmark buildings in the middle of a critical mass of people living and working in a ready-made market are there? You have people who must be down there all the time &#8212; it would almost be like having a monopoly.</p>
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		<title>By: WHworker</title>
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		<dc:creator>WHworker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Feb 2008 17:08:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I'm all for preservation and good architecture. Richmond benefits from both. But I work in West Hospital full time. It is an unbelievable mess inside...antiquated, very poorly maintained, elevators that often don't work, ceilings falling in, a HVAC system that would gag the best set of lungs, oh and did I mention the asbestos throughout the structure. No one is willing to spend the money to keep it acceptably functional as it is. Just what angel is going to pony up to restore or renovate this building? And even tho its name says "hospital", almost all the floors are dedicated administrative and faculty office space ...not patient rooms or treatment areas. Short of gutting the entire interior including mechanicals, and simply leaving the exterior shell, I can't imagine any way to keep this building viable in Richmond's future.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m all for preservation and good architecture. Richmond benefits from both. But I work in West Hospital full time. It is an unbelievable mess inside&#8230;antiquated, very poorly maintained, elevators that often don&#8217;t work, ceilings falling in, a HVAC system that would gag the best set of lungs, oh and did I mention the asbestos throughout the structure. No one is willing to spend the money to keep it acceptably functional as it is. Just what angel is going to pony up to restore or renovate this building? And even tho its name says &#8220;hospital&#8221;, almost all the floors are dedicated administrative and faculty office space &#8230;not patient rooms or treatment areas. Short of gutting the entire interior including mechanicals, and simply leaving the exterior shell, I can&#8217;t imagine any way to keep this building viable in Richmond&#8217;s future.</p>
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		<title>By: ambivalentrichmonder</title>
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		<dc:creator>ambivalentrichmonder</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Feb 2008 00:06:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks richmondpics</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks richmondpics</p>
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		<title>By: richmondpics</title>
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		<dc:creator>richmondpics</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Feb 2008 22:59:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I believe the building was up for historic registration over a decade ago... VCU worked out a special arrangement with the Dept. of Historic Resources blocking the building from ever gaining historic designation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I believe the building was up for historic registration over a decade ago&#8230; VCU worked out a special arrangement with the Dept. of Historic Resources blocking the building from ever gaining historic designation.</p>
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		<title>By: ambivalentrichmonder</title>
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		<dc:creator>ambivalentrichmonder</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Feb 2008 19:38:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Efforts were made to get the building listed, but they were stonewalled by VCU- at least that's the way I understand the history.   

I think it is realistic to think a developer would pay millions for a building on a college campus.  The specifics of this building? I don't know- I'm more concerned that VCU is presenting false options to try to force public opinion onto their side.  If they've actually considered and rejected many options, they damn well better tell the public about it.  But as it stands now, my understanding is they're giving 2 choices: keep using it in current state or tear it down.  If I can think of other options, I can guarantee you someone with expertise can as well.  But why aren't they talking about them?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Efforts were made to get the building listed, but they were stonewalled by VCU- at least that&#8217;s the way I understand the history.   </p>
<p>I think it is realistic to think a developer would pay millions for a building on a college campus.  The specifics of this building? I don&#8217;t know- I&#8217;m more concerned that VCU is presenting false options to try to force public opinion onto their side.  If they&#8217;ve actually considered and rejected many options, they damn well better tell the public about it.  But as it stands now, my understanding is they&#8217;re giving 2 choices: keep using it in current state or tear it down.  If I can think of other options, I can guarantee you someone with expertise can as well.  But why aren&#8217;t they talking about them?</p>
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		<title>By: steve</title>
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		<dc:creator>steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Feb 2008 17:55:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Okay, let's say they defer tearing down the West Hospital and build the new hospital at suggested alternative locations.  What then?  Who maintains it?  Who pays for upkeep on it?  Is it realistic to think a developer is going to put millions upon millions into renovating a property that sits on MCV's campus ... to what end?  This is a great building and I hope it gets a second chance but in this place and time does Richmond really have the economy and ability to sustain something like this?  Does it get mothballed for a few decades?  Even mothballed money and manpower has to be put into it annually.  

My other question is, if this building is so significant, how come steps weren't taken by historical groups to get some sort of designation prior to its imminent demise?

I am not being facetious here ... I am asking these questions sincerely.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Okay, let&#8217;s say they defer tearing down the West Hospital and build the new hospital at suggested alternative locations.  What then?  Who maintains it?  Who pays for upkeep on it?  Is it realistic to think a developer is going to put millions upon millions into renovating a property that sits on MCV&#8217;s campus &#8230; to what end?  This is a great building and I hope it gets a second chance but in this place and time does Richmond really have the economy and ability to sustain something like this?  Does it get mothballed for a few decades?  Even mothballed money and manpower has to be put into it annually.  </p>
<p>My other question is, if this building is so significant, how come steps weren&#8217;t taken by historical groups to get some sort of designation prior to its imminent demise?</p>
<p>I am not being facetious here &#8230; I am asking these questions sincerely.</p>
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		<title>By: Scott Burger</title>
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		<dc:creator>Scott Burger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Feb 2008 12:57:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Of course, this is the way Trani and VCU evidently work.

They pretend to maintain relationships with the community, then if they come up against opposing viewpoints or protest, they will claim the ones objecting are 'unreasonable' and use their corporate connections (including Media General) to reiterate that ridiculous claim even as they go about their bulldozing. 

http://www.oregonhill.net/2008/02/04/master-plan-for-downtown-neighborhoodsvcu-meeting-recap/

On top of that, Trani cannot be trusted to keep his word. 

http://www.oregonhill.net/2008/02/14/letter-to-city-council/

Even when offered perfectly reasonable alternatives. 

http://www.oregonhill.net/2007/09/23/vcus-parking-lots-alternative-sites/

I don't care how many new buildings he names after himself, he should be forced to retire already.

http://www.oregonhill.net/2007/09/19/trani-and-tobacco/

The story of the Jacob House is that you actually have to stand in front of the bulldozers to make a dent in their public relations, which is not always possible.

To his great credit, Alan Schintzius, they guy who runs the Camel, did this in orer to block the demolition of the Jacob House. Despite further protests and WARNINGS about its Quaker abolitionist history, Trani insisted on moving it for his engineering schools plans. Sure enough, after VCU moved it, they found a hidden basement room that likely had to do with the Underground Railroad. Thats a true story that you will not be reading in VCU's alumni magazine.

Listen, I know VCU does some great things for Richmond, but Trani's ego and undue power are making a mess of this City.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Of course, this is the way Trani and VCU evidently work.</p>
<p>They pretend to maintain relationships with the community, then if they come up against opposing viewpoints or protest, they will claim the ones objecting are &#8216;unreasonable&#8217; and use their corporate connections (including Media General) to reiterate that ridiculous claim even as they go about their bulldozing. </p>
<p><a href="http://www.oregonhill.net/2008/02/04/master-plan-for-downtown-neighborhoodsvcu-meeting-recap/" rel="nofollow">http://www.oregonhill.net/2008/02/04/master-plan-for-downtown-neighborhoodsvcu-meeting-recap/</a></p>
<p>On top of that, Trani cannot be trusted to keep his word. </p>
<p><a href="http://www.oregonhill.net/2008/02/14/letter-to-city-council/" rel="nofollow">http://www.oregonhill.net/2008/02/14/letter-to-city-council/</a></p>
<p>Even when offered perfectly reasonable alternatives. </p>
<p><a href="http://www.oregonhill.net/2007/09/23/vcus-parking-lots-alternative-sites/" rel="nofollow">http://www.oregonhill.net/2007/09/23/vcus-parking-lots-alternative-sites/</a></p>
<p>I don&#8217;t care how many new buildings he names after himself, he should be forced to retire already.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.oregonhill.net/2007/09/19/trani-and-tobacco/" rel="nofollow">http://www.oregonhill.net/2007/09/19/trani-and-tobacco/</a></p>
<p>The story of the Jacob House is that you actually have to stand in front of the bulldozers to make a dent in their public relations, which is not always possible.</p>
<p>To his great credit, Alan Schintzius, they guy who runs the Camel, did this in orer to block the demolition of the Jacob House. Despite further protests and WARNINGS about its Quaker abolitionist history, Trani insisted on moving it for his engineering schools plans. Sure enough, after VCU moved it, they found a hidden basement room that likely had to do with the Underground Railroad. Thats a true story that you will not be reading in VCU&#8217;s alumni magazine.</p>
<p>Listen, I know VCU does some great things for Richmond, but Trani&#8217;s ego and undue power are making a mess of this City.</p>
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